Last night Shri Param conducted a Healing Circle in front of a Buddhist shrine to Buddhists who have been practicing anywhere from 5 to 20 years. It was a surprise and treat that Mother Kali came through and gave us a Teaching for several hours before the Sounding even began. Below is a transcription of the live recording. Shri Param: What I teach is not written yet *laughing* because I do not teach, someone else teaches and uses this body; Mother Kali...This information was lost thousands of years ago. Humans don't worship the divine in their partners and in each other any more but go to temples to worship statues, and you don't get the same effect. We are all Gods and Goddesses ourselves. There is no external god until we know the God/Goddess within our own being. We are the Guru. We are the God. We are the Goddess. When we know the Guru, God, & Goddess within our being then we can know the Guru, God and Goddess outside our body. Because, if we do not know what is inside how can you feel what is outside? If I see the Buddha within myself then I can see the Buddha outside and have a nice connection/relationship. Otherwise we go to a statue to pray, meditate, and bow. But when we leave the Buddha is still sitting in the statue and is gone from our presence. If I know the Buddha within then he is always with me and I do not need the statue and sacred space of the temple. At the same time we need to keep sacred space in our homes because we live in the 21st century and when we go outside everything is so busy and fast that when we come in and sit down for a while in our sacred space, we absorb the peaceful energy and then go on to do other things. We forget the Buddha within when we travel and there is too much traffic and chaos around. In the beginning of Buddha’s practice he was following everyone else. Then he said to himself, “This is not working.” So he stopped and then he went back into society to find himself. This is why some teachings say “There is no God.” It’s not that there is no God, but you cannot find God by going and looking for God. When you are ready and you see the god within your being, god comes to you. I did the same when I was young. I made pilgrimage, pierced my tongue and did everything to know god. Then, when I stopped looking for god, Kali came. When I was young I used to go to the temple and sit, look, and talk to Mother Kali, not pray but talk all the time. When I stopped looking at her [as being outside of myself] she came to live within me. They say that when the student is ready the Master appears. This is true but the real issue at hand is whether you take the opportunity or miss the boat, then you're in trouble. And on the other hand, if you follow a Master blindly without thinking for yourself then you are also in trouble. You see the Master is there to hold your hand and take you for a walk but he does not teach you anything. You learn by walking. A Master only interferes when you make a mistake but even then he only watches. Then when you go to him, only then does the Master tell you where you went wrong. You have to be responsible for your life. Shri Param: How many of you have read Siddhartha? (Everyone raises their hand) What did you learn from Siddhartha? Student answers: Renunciation Shri Param asks, What did he renounce? Student answers: He refused the mundane, the riches. Shri Param: “No. He was still looking for something. He gave up this, but went looking for that until he was totally near death. Shri Param addresses another student “You’re a Buddhist. What did you learn from Buddha? Student answers: He gave up all that he had to alleviate suffering. Shri Param: Yes. But the first part of his life was attachment. He was attached to the idea that he could reach/attain moksha/liberation by following other people. Other students agree Shri Param: Then he went back into the market place to experience life and then found liberation/moksha. So, what did he renounce? That is the important question. He renounced something but what was it that he renounced? Another student replies in Italian for a few moments Shri Param laughs before the translation is complete. I know, she explained a whole lot of literature. That is nice, but it is not what I asked. What did Buddha renounce? Another student: Ego. Shri Param: Ego is a part of what he renounced but it is not the answer. He renounced one simple thing, Attachment. So you can live in the world and enjoy everything as long as you are not attached. You don’t have to give up your husband. You don’t have to give up your house or job. You don’t have to give up your wine. You don’t have to give up anything. But when you have them you do not need them. You just enjoy them. You know when some people do not eat for two days and they finally see food they shovel it into their face and stuff themselves like pigs. That is bad. Whether you have eaten for the past two days you still only take one bowl of rice and eat it slowly. We only eat to keep our digestive juices working. And when you stop being attached you do not have ego either. Because when you have ego you are attached and have thoughts like “She’s mine” *laughing* and then you think “This is mine, that is mine”. Tomorrow you have to be willing to give up everything and start all over again, poor, rich, or whatever. As long as you are attached to it you are not going anywhere. When you have negative desires you create a lot of pain [in your second chakra]. *He puts his hand on his belly below the navel.* Because when your desires become worse and worse this is when you develop cancer, tumors, and other illnesses. All illnesses come out of attachment and desire. When you are free from attachment and desire you do not have illnesses. In the type of healing I do, you can either be attached or be free. Student: Everybody has attachment and desire. Who doesn’t? Shri Param replies: How long have you been practicing Buddhism? What did you study, a good story? If you want a good story you might as well read Shakespeare. [He] offers a better insight. Student: I study to learn how to help myself deal with attachments. I don’t believe it is possible that there is a man in the world without attachment and desire because it is human nature. Shri Param: Then why are you praying to Buddha? Then he’s no good either. You are [our hostess’] best friend right? You should ask her to take the statue of Buddha and throw it away. Student: Desire is a part of the human being. Shri Param: No. Passion is a part of being human. There is a big difference between passion and desire. Don’t be mistaken between passion and desire. I can have a passion for that art *pointing to the Buddha statue* and the feeling inside, wow. But I do not desire that statue. I have passion for food. I like to play with food but I do not have a desire to eat. Don’t get mistaken between desire and passion. You have a passion for beautiful clothes, and tomorrow if you don’ t need it you don’t keep it, you give it away. You should not have sentiments with anything. Student: Passion is feelings. It is love and desire is a sentiment Shri Param: Desire is attachment. It also comes from the mind. The translation gives meaning. *He picks up the tape recorder and says* This has sentiment to me because Nageswari is going to give it to me *laughing* You see when Shri Param: I understand the difference and love is spontaneous. Love is spontaneous. It is not sentiment. It is not desire. It is only when you put it into your head, and you have the thought “I’d like to take that man to bed” or I’d like to get that man. Like now you have a problem. He wants to be your friend but you want to have him in bed. So you are putting sentiment and desire into that. Student: What is the half way? Shri Param: Enjoy it as it is. That is the half way and the only way. Then there is no trouble Student: So when you love someone then you can have someone but to love them means you have to let go? Shri Param: You don’t love that person if you want the person. When you love the person you are like this * he takes a hold of a student’s hand next to him*. When you want the person you are like this* He pulls her arms over to his side and she falls over*. You see what happened to her, she fell. You have got to allow the energy to do its work without you interfering. The other day when I was making love to her. Okay, you were there it was perfect. It was perfect love. Most people cannot make love that way. It was perfect but there was no attachment. I didn’t ring her up the next day and say “What are you doing? Let’s go for coffee. I didn’t ring her up the day after that and say “What are you doing? Let’s go for dinner.” I didn’t even call her. There was no attachment. And mind you she is very [astrologically] compatible with me so it is worth investing the time but I do not. Student: So how do you see the compatibility in the person? Shri Param: You cannot force it. It happens. Student: Then when it happens? What do you do? Shri Param: You do whatever happens, whatever comes. You welcome it and live with it but you do not force it. You see sometimes the chemistry is only from here * he holds his second chakra*. Sometimes the chemistry is from here *he holds his heart chakra*. Sometimes it is from here and here *he holds both* When it is from here and here *holding both second and heart chakra areas*, then the natural thing happens and you get together. When it is here *holding his heart* you hug each other and then go your own way again. You don’t mix or take this *second chakra* and put it here*heart chakra* and you do not take this *heart chakra* and put it here *second chakra* Because sometimes you feel sexual and you want to have sex with them and you think it is love. Another time you feel love and you think that you have to have sex with that person. Both the energies have to work together [heart and second chakra]. The reason is that when this *second chakra* and *heart chakra* this are warm, then there is a journey to go on. And when you get together with someone you allow them to help you go up. No relationship is only for a need base. It is easier to be single and have as many partners as you want than to have a partner if it is not for the growth. When you have sex you want to feel the energy take you to another, higher plane. It is not for pleasure only. And that can only be done if you love the person not need the person. You can try to hold onto the person and nothing will happen. Student: Do you think that the energies are here *second chakra* here *heart chakra* and here *third eye, sixth chakra* because you say that when the energies are at the second and heart chakra it is good and when it is at the third eye, sixth chakra it is no good. Shri Param. No, no, no, no. Here there is no energy *third eye, sixth chakra* There is only information like a computer that translates different things. It is your main frame computer. It interprets everything and gives pictures to everything. It can make you or destroy you. It’s easy this one *pointing to third eye, sixth chakra* can do both. So your basic energy that everyone has is here *second chakra* otherwise no babies, no sex, no relationships no nothing. So your second chakra is always awake your heart chakra is always awake. What you want to do is connect your second chakra with your heart chakra and feel the energy flow. Then the energy will be so strong that it will actually pull the energy from your base [first, root] chakra to your second chakra. The first and second chakras are very close to each other and inter-connected. The second chakra is union. The base chakra wants to create union. Your heart chakra is the feeling that makes the second and base chakra pure. You see, love is very pure. The head is twisted. The only reason man and women come together is to complete the journey and then to grow. It is not for need. So when you see Yab-Yum and other tantric symbols they represent the divine union of coming together as one to grow spiritually. Addressing a student he asks “When making love to a boy do you sit in Yab-Yum? Student: Yeah sometimes, it depends. Shri Param: No, all the time? *laughing* Student: She pauses to think then replies that she does not remember because it’s been so long I’ve forgotten. David: No, that’s not true. We made love to each other here a couple weeks ago, you and I. Shri Param: And I’m going to make love to you tonight. That is the trouble. When you forget something so beautiful then how can you keep that beauty going? You should know that. Student: I want to continuously stay in the energy every day but I tend to change this energy because people, men in particular I have a fear. I don’t know why. I want to stay in this energy but I change with others. Shri Param: Why change? If you change it should be because you love yourself and you need to change for yourself. A lot of people don’t want to get up at 4:00am to make love to their partners but they have sex anyway out of a need to keep their partner. Then there is a struggle because the partner wants you to get up to feed him but you do not want to. The energy is not flowing and natural. The issue is this. If you were yourself from the beginning then there would not have been a problem. A lot of people get into trouble that way. If you have an understanding partner then they will understand that you had sex with them when you did not want to, but you have decided not to do it anymore because it’s not you anymore. However they will still consider you stupid for having done something to please them that was not out of love but need. Then there becomes a trust issue. One must stop being a moron so that other morons do not bring you down and you spiral down together and do not grow or come together. You fuck like morons. If there are morons out there do you also become a moron? Student: No, no, no. *laughing* Shri Param: You stay the way you are. You live the way you want to live. The other people’s problems are their problems not yours. Because if you change you are not going to meet the person that you deserve and you will always be at that moron level. Always be yourself. Student: I understand but what if there are only morons. With whom do I make love? Shri Param: Why do you need to make love to them? Student: That’s not the problem. Shri Param: Sleeping with morons? Student: No, I don’t need to make love to them. Shri Param: Oh yes you do need to make love. First to yourself Student: Okay, I need it. What do I do, with whom? Shri Param: First love yourself. Make love with yourself. Student: Yes, I understand. I have all this energy. What do I do with it? Shri Param: She’s got a lot of passion but she still does not love herself. Student: Okay, when I get to love myself what do I do? Shri Param: Then you may get a nice moron who will come to you and you teach him how not to be a moron but not being a moron yourself and being yourself. Student: Oh, yes, Again. *everyone laughs* Shri Param: You’ve got to remember that the first teacher that a child has is the mother. It’s the woman. The last teacher that a man has is still a woman. This question is how do you become a woman? Just because you have breasts and a yoni it does not make you a woman. A woman is someone who is soft, graceful, gentle, caring, loving. They don’t have to do meditation they just have to be loving, to embody love. That’s all woman’s job is to be very spiritual. Student: The problem is that when you are like that you run the risk of becoming the mother to all of these morons. Shri Param: Unfortunately my dear, you have been born a woman and therefore are born a Mother. If you don’t like this; Since you are already wearing pants you should go and get an operation and put a lingam there. Student: No, no, no, no good. Shri Param: So being a Mother is your destiny. Another student: Yes, but with your partner you are not their Mother. Shri Param: As their lover you are still Mothering and nurturing because that is woman’s natural role. You simply didn’t give birth to the man. Student: I feel you are saying in this historical moment there is no balance between male and female and people do not really know how to let go and love and be loved. Shri Param: This is why we have wars. We have killings. We have bar fights. We have boundaries. We have all sorts of madness. Student: So what happened then? When women were loving, nurturing and wonderful the men got scared and didn’t want to be loved like that anymore. Shri Param: That also can happen. That’s why, in our tradition we work out the Astrological chart between partners. So, if you are a strong person and you get another strong person then it is good. But if you are a strong person and the other person is weak, the weak person will run out. The question is why do you get a weak person? If you are strong you know when you are with a weaker person. The problem with her *referring to one of the students* is that she thought she could keep him. That is attachment. That was not only attachment it was possession. Do you think he is your dog? Then you have a problem. Dogs you can put on a leash and walk around. You cannot do that with humans. Student: It is because I see the divine in men because I love the male energy because I loved my father very much and all the men have made me grow spiritually so I still go to them and try to be in relationships. But then after years of relationships I get frustrated. Shri Param: So they all keep running away from you? Student: No, just the opposite. She gets frustrated and gives up. Shri Param: Okay, the problem is not that it is all coming from the heart. A lot of it is coming from her head. Her beauty is dimmed by very heavy, dark clouds around her heart. Student: What do I do with these clouds? Shri Param: You see, with your guru you all sit down and meditate and everything else. Everybody follows him. Good men bad men, Good women bad women. Everyone follows him but no one gives him a headache because he comes from his heart. I can tell people a lot of things. Normally if you say these things to another person they get angry. If I say them they do not get angry, why? * He places his hand on her cheek and asks* How does it feel? Student: Fresh. Shri Param places her own hand on her cheek and asks* How does it feel? Student: Cold. Shri Param: That has to change. When that changes you will find love easily. Student: That’s not because of blood circulation? Shri Param: What circulates your blood? Your heartbeat. The nadis here create a Shakti flow to your heart. All of your nadis end in your hands and your feet. Nadis are like meridians. Student: So if our hands or feet are cold we have our heart closed? Shri Param: Exactly. Love is circulating when your blood is circulating and your hands and feet are warm. Student: How can I express this strength that I feel here *places her hand on her heart* Shri Param: You should be running around me. From the day you met me I told you the secret then. Did you look for me again before now? Student: Well, I knew you were going to come here again. Shri Param: Oh, so you can wait? That’s good. Okay. I’m here for another three weeks then I go away for another twelve months and come back next year and you wait as well. Students *laugh* Shri Param turns to Nageswari and asks her how long it took for her to change. * She laughs* I’m not saying how long it took for you to be really under control but, how long until you took the first step? Nageswari: Three months. Shri Param: Three months, every day. Student: Then it is hopeless. Nageswari: But perhaps you are less stubborn. *laughing* *Shri Param takes the student’s hand and feels it*. She is quite stubborn but she still has something like a spark that is still in her and beautiful. The question is this. Are you going to use yourself before you grow too old? Student: laughs Shri Param: In today’s world to find love and enjoy love it is difficult. So people have to learn to embrace love. You are already on the journey, you learn first to show love, to share love. Then you learn how to share love without spoiling them. You become too much of a Italian Mamma. Every time people come into your house you feed people but you do everything to the excess and over the limit. Another student: My sense is that it is not possible to learn to love someone because you have to feel it. Otherwise if you try to learn it does not work. Shri Param: Your actions will make other people open up. Do you understand what I mean? If she mothers too much then people get overwhelmed and smothered. With your lover you cannot say “You’ve got to do this, this, this, and this; you can’t keep track of everything they do or do not do. We always have a list about what we think they should or should not be, should or should not do. There should be no question about that but we seem to always have this problem. It’s like a shopping list of negative qualities but the other person does not have the same list. We each have different interests and we each act and think differently. I’m governed by the sun so I respond to life in a more forceful way. Nageswari is governed by the moons rays, which is more fluid so how can I expect her to behave the same way I do other than by knocking her head to be someone she is not. How can I expect her to love me? When we do too much for others they get choked. Everybody wants to feel love. There is not one person who does not want to feel love. The game is that everyone is trying to take from the others so there is nothing solid for people to experience the love. When people come to me and do not experience love it is because they are cuckoo in their brains. They slowly start enjoying love but I do not spoil them. You show them love by invoking the love within you and then you show them love. When they start respecting you then they want to love as well. But you cannot tell them “you’ve got to love. This is what you have to do, and this is what you have to do”. With your lover you can not do that. If a student comes to you, you can tell them, “This is the art to discover the love within you.” Student: I feel tranquility and peace with my partner. I’m talking about higher, bigger love. Shri Param: You see, when you can get that higher tranquility between your partner and you then you’ll find that the higher love becomes possible. You know there are couples who have been married for fifty years and they are still smiling and loving each other. Half the time they have stopped having sex. They just enjoy being with each other so the gratification level is not there. Then they come to me and ask “What’s wrong with us? We don’t have sex anymore? Then I look at them and I look at their energy and I say “You love each other. That’s all you need. You don’t need the gratification”. That is when they have gone higher in their being. You can grow with a partner or you can grow alone. But in today’s world it is a lot more difficult. But to grow with a partner is even more difficult but not impossible. In today’s world, if you are serious you can grow very high but without a partner you are incomplete. Student: I was married for ten years. Shri Param: But you were not married for all of those ten years. Marriage is when one energy joins another energy and they become one. Student: How do you know and how can you be sure if you have found real love. Shri Param: When you get there you know. The friendship you have with that person will be very rich. In the friendship you have you understand each other, you listen to each other; you do things for each other. You know when you see your partners face that something is wrong. When you see your partners face you know when she is happy. You know when to go in and when to step aside. But the thing is that you are only using your partner to grow. You need to use your partner to grow. Student: It is not easy to be alone. I am used to being alone and it is not easy. Shri Param: Then maybe the universe has made you alone you make you learn to love yourself. You see, before, you did not love yourself. You needed the marriage to give you a reason to live. So now the universe wants to learn to live for your self first. Maybe you need a good practice, not just meditating, like doing agni, doing mantras, and puja, doing a lot of activities. Even on your own it gives you something to do, something to grow with and something to aspire to. Your life keeps growing with or without a partner. Just doing a half hearted Om will not do it, you have to do ritual instead. So, you invoke and offer into the flames and get rid of the energy that is blocked and your heart energy will open up and you affirm your openness to the universe. I’ve known people who have meditated for thirty to forty years including Tibetan Buddhists as well. I used to go to the Tibetan Buddhist temple in Cambera, Australia. I went there all the time. I had to crack their backs, do this, do that. Their bodies were completely out of shape. Student: What kind of rituals? Shri Param: Agni is good. You use the flame of an oil lamp no candles. Use good quality sesame oil, ghee, olive oil to fill the lamp. Then you can put pure essential oils in there like geranium or lavender and burn it. Sesame oil has a lot of oils so when you burn the lamp it also diffused throughout the room and permeates the room with energy. Candles are pure wax so they have no minerals and it is not good. Ghee has even higher energy and more minerals than sesame oil but it is more expensive and you can not use it well in winter because it solidifies. Nowadays you can buy something like a coke bottle with a cotton wick and a ceramic piece at the top. Or, if you have a Tibetan or alternative shop nearby you can find a cotton wick with a small piece of paper around it. You put water in a bowl and then put oil on top of the water and light the wick. Student: I’ve done so many different kinds of spiritual practices but I have not changed. Shri Param: If you come to me I can guarantee that you will find a difference and changes. But you have to promise me that you will show up. That’s the key. Student: Do you mean now? Shri Param: If you come to India, it’s even better. *He refers to Nageswari* This one here also did all sorts of different spiritual practices, religions, and traditions before she came to me and found something that works. I only accept a small number of students in India. This year for example is already full and that’s already too many. You see, Osho and everyone else who has taken on hundreds and hundreds of students can not teach anything. You can’t teach love with books. You can not teach love with words only. Student: After the session the other night I experienced a lot of movement. There was a lot of movement in my heart and a lot of fire. In particular I, by chance met male friends from my past who had questions to sort out. So in the few days following the last lovemaking Para Tan session she had the opportunity to sort through and answer questions. Even with my father. It was very interesting. Shri Param: Yes, she has a bit more to work out, only the last bit. You have got to resolve with everyone from you past before you can feel love. Student: I understood that I had to get in touch with something very deep inside of me and maybe I did touch it but need to be aware of it and I think it is the very first step. The issues were all related to communication. Shri Param: Deep inside of you, stop playing games to start with. Your lawyers work. Keep it in the courthouse and in your office. The moment you come out, be a simple woman. Otherwise you get heavy. Even though in the Lovemaking Para Tan sessions you can clear your heart, release the past, you can also put it back again. Okay, let’s do some Lovemaking… Student: May I have the last question please? Shri Param: Okay. Student: My experience after the last session was more physical with trembling and shaking inside. Shri Param: That’s because she has a big block here *placing hand on heart*. This is why she has energy problems as well. Today I am not going to make love to you but you are going to anchor everybody. When you anchor a lot of energy goes into your body. Everybody in the circle, as long as you are focusing and do the mantra properly, the energy will move. The person in the middle is like a conductor. I sound into that person but the sound goes into everybody. Student: The sensations lasted for three days but thank fully there is no pain now and I feel clearer. Shri Param laughs and says “I thought you felt clearer when you bought this” *he holds up a packet of Malaysian beadies she brought him*.Okay let’s begin. |
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